Outer Brightness: From Mormon to Jesus
Sharing the Good News with LDS Missionaries w/ Sarah Bateman

Sharing the Good News with LDS Missionaries w/ Sarah Bateman

December 2, 2022

In this episode, we welcome a listener, Sarah Bateman to Outer Brightness. She recently shared with us that she has listened to about 2,400 minutes of the podcast. She joined us to talk share her experiences meeting with LDS missionaries and sharing the good news with them. She also posed some questions to us to get our insights as former LDS missionaries into how best to reach those young men and women with the biblical gospel of Jesus Christ.

Coinciding with this episode we are running a giveaway of five copies of Micah Wilder's book, "Passport to Heaven: The True Story of a Zealous Mormon Missionary Who Discovers the Jesus He Never Knew." To receive this book for free, navigate to our Outer Brightness Facebook discussion group, find the post for this episode, and be one of the first five to request a copy.

Thoughts on the Textus Receptus vs Critical Text Debate w/ Dwayne Green

Thoughts on the Textus Receptus vs Critical Text Debate w/ Dwayne Green

November 16, 2022

“Lions, and tigers, and bears. Oh my!”

Textus Receptus, and Modern Critical Text, and Comma Johanneum. Oh my!

The Apostate Paul, here. No sooner had I began attending a Christian church back in 2010, and declared myself an “ex-Mormon Christian” online did Latter-day Saints begin to challenge my belief in the Bible as the reliable Word of God. I quickly learned of critical Biblical scholars like Bart Ehrman, and had to bone up on terms like those above. I had to try to make sense of the many debates around text-types, and the impacts they have on English translations of the Bible. As I did so, I wondered how my former co-religionists were so knowledgeable on these topics when they were fairly new to me. Was it because I didn’t attend BYU? Is that where they learned to use such tactics to bolster the LDS claim to additional Scripture?

As I studied, I reached tentative conclusions that I discussed with others on Facebook as these issues came up. “So the Comma Johanneum isn’t in the earliest manuscripts, does that necessarily mean that it was an intentional corruption of the text? And even if it isn’t original, so what? Textual criticism can trace to where it seems to have been introduced in the transmission of the text.” When I did so, I was challenged vigorously by a KJV-only Christian.

It was a veritable mine field to try to navigate as a new Christian trying to defend his faith against volleys from Mormon online apologists. I struggled to get my mind around the breadth of the topic of textual criticism. Part of the answer for me was to attend a Christian Seminary to seek a degree in Biblical Studies. Not everyone can do that.

In this episode we welcome Dwayne Green to help listeners get the lay of the land regarding this topic. He’s very knowledgeable and has a YouTube Channel that is very helpful. Follow him if you want to dig deeper into topics related to textual criticism of the Bible.

https://www.youtube.com/@Dwayne_Green

Finding Christianity w/ Sandra Tanner

Finding Christianity w/ Sandra Tanner

November 1, 2022

In this episode, we welcome Sandra Tanner to the podcast. She joined us earlier this year to discuss her transition from Mormonism to Christianity. Many who go through an LDS faith crisis end up jettisoning Christianity and religion altogether. We asked Sandra to talk about why she kept Christianity after deconstructing Mormonism. 

It was a pleasure to have Sandra on Outer Brightness, and to have had the opportunity to meet her in person at the Utah Lighthouse Ministry Bookstore in Salt Lake City in September.

”Aaaaand We’re Back!” Update and Relaunch

”Aaaaand We’re Back!” Update and Relaunch

October 26, 2022

Hey Fireflies! Long time no post. Big apologies. In this episode, Matthew and I give an update on what's been going on in our busy lives and talk about the relaunch of Outer Brightness: From Mormon to Jesus.

We're glad to be back, and hope to hear from you soon!

The Apostles’ Creed (Things LDS Hate Series: Creeds)

The Apostles’ Creed (Things LDS Hate Series: Creeds)

February 27, 2022

Do Latter-day Saints hate the creeds of historic Christianity? Do they have their own creed? What about the Apostles’ Creed, which historian Philip Schaff has called the “creed of creeds”? Justin S. Holcomb in his book Know the Creeds and Councils has written, “Perhaps more than any other profession of faith, the Apostles’ Creed has expressed the essentials of Christianity in a way that Christians of all stripes can rally around.” Could Mormons agree with each article of that creed without hesitation? We discuss these things and more in this episode.

Midnight Mormons vs. RFM (Debate Commentary)

Midnight Mormons vs. RFM (Debate Commentary)

February 5, 2022

In this episode, Matthew the Nuclear Calvinist and the Apostate Paul comment on a debate (?) held on November 13, 2021 between the three amigos of the YouTube channel, Midnight Mormons, and Radio Free Mormon. The video has been posted to the Heart of the Matter, the Midnight Mormons, and the Mormon Discussion, Inc. podcast channels and, to date, has racked up 43K views. The pre-debate drama was amped up, perhaps purposefully to draw an audience, and the fireworks continued during the debate. It was not a formal debate, and the participants went off-format for much of the evening, leaving Matthew and I asking whether this was in fact a debate. We comment on that and several of the points made by each side.

Link to the debate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU0LSzicsT4

Is There a Mother in Heaven?, Pt. 2 (LDS Gospel Topics Essay Series)

Is There a Mother in Heaven?, Pt. 2 (LDS Gospel Topics Essay Series)

January 23, 2022

This episode we finish our discussion of the LDS Gospel Topics Essay, "Mother in Heaven." Matthew the Nuclear Calvinist kicks off the episode with a question about why the doctrine of a Mother in Heaven is considered authoritative doctrine when the direct support for it amounts to hearsay that Joseph Smith taught it along with the fact that it made it into an LDS Hymn. He notes that the doctrine that Adam was God has been declared to be heresy by subsequent LDS leaders even though Brigham Young taught it and claimed that Joseph Smith taught it. We hope that the rest of this conversation is helpful.

Is There a Mother in Heaven?, Pt. 1 (LDS Gospel Topics Essay Series)

Is There a Mother in Heaven?, Pt. 1 (LDS Gospel Topics Essay Series)

January 16, 2022

This is our 100th episode, and we have a special treat for you fireflies! Michael dropped by Outer Brightness to discuss the LDS Gospel Topics Essay on the LDS doctrine of a Mother in Heaven. In this first part of the conversation, they discuss how they viewed thsi doctrine when they were LDS and whether or not they felt an affinity for the doctrine. Finally, they discuss each of the passages from LDS canon that are cited in the essay as supportive of the doctrine.

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, Pt. 2 (Things LDS Hate Series: Hell)

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, Pt. 2 (Things LDS Hate Series: Hell)

November 21, 2021

This episode, we kicked off our “Things Mormons Hate” series, in which Matthew the Nuclear Calvinist and the Apostate Paul discuss Jonathan Edwards’ important sermon, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” There are two parts to our discussion. In this second part, we discuss our thoughts about Edwards’ sermon and include a reading of the sermon. We hope you enjoy this conversation and presentation of “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” If you are outside of Christ, flee to the mountain!

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, Pt. 1 (Things LDS Hate Series: Hell)

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, Pt. 1 (Things LDS Hate Series: Hell)

November 21, 2021

This episode, we kick off our short, “Things Mormons Hate” series. Matthew the Nuclear Calvinist and the Apostate Paul discuss Jonathan Edwards’ important sermon, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” There are two parts to our discussion. In this first part, we talk about our understanding of God’s wrath when we were LDS, passages in LDS canon that reference the wrath of God, how we understand the wrath of God juxtaposed with the love of God, the danger of a theology that focuses solely on the love of God, people in church history who have attempted to create theologies that separate the love of God from the justice of God, and whether or not there are people today who seek to do the same. We hope you enjoy this conversation.

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